Good question. If that were true, though, how would we get “progress”? I think we saw a bunch of rises and fails prior to the industrial revolution (and very little progress), but since then, it’s been all progress.
I would guess that the trend of the rising/falling pattern has generally been upward, with each new low marked higher than the previous ones (if this makes sense, since we are talking about “progress”, a somewhat vague concept).
I think that Brandon aims true at the pivotal point that was the industrial revolution
(Brad DeLong guestimates a growth rate of 0.05%/ year, or 5% per 100 years, for the period 8000 B.C.E. – 1500, with “all or nearly all of better technologies” showing up “in Malthusian fashion as increasing population rather than increasing living standards”. He further argues that the “economy” as a central issue emerged only in the 1700s. A worthy longread, btw:
1. Isn’t expanding population a definition of success for most species? To the point of overpopulation, anyway …
2. A rising/falling spiral , with rise diverting sharply upward at the Industrial Revolution – and some uncertainty concerning the next slope downward?
Fair enough. To measure “success”, I particularly like (though I do not have the expertise to actually delve into) those “quality ” indexes, which follow the pure MOAR approach of population, or maybe GDP, growth (for example, child mortality, life expectancy and so on).
“The World really Is Getting Worse”: Isn’t human progress a historical series of rising and falling cycles?
Good question. If that were true, though, how would we get “progress”? I think we saw a bunch of rises and fails prior to the industrial revolution (and very little progress), but since then, it’s been all progress.
I would guess that the trend of the rising/falling pattern has generally been upward, with each new low marked higher than the previous ones (if this makes sense, since we are talking about “progress”, a somewhat vague concept).
I think that Brandon aims true at the pivotal point that was the industrial revolution
(Brad DeLong guestimates a growth rate of 0.05%/ year, or 5% per 100 years, for the period 8000 B.C.E. – 1500, with “all or nearly all of better technologies” showing up “in Malthusian fashion as increasing population rather than increasing living standards”. He further argues that the “economy” as a central issue emerged only in the 1700s. A worthy longread, btw:
https://www.bradford-delong.com/2016/05/the-economist-as-the-public-square-and-economists.html)
1. Isn’t expanding population a definition of success for most species? To the point of overpopulation, anyway …
2. A rising/falling spiral , with rise diverting sharply upward at the Industrial Revolution – and some uncertainty concerning the next slope downward?
Fair enough. To measure “success”, I particularly like (though I do not have the expertise to actually delve into) those “quality ” indexes, which follow the pure MOAR approach of population, or maybe GDP, growth (for example, child mortality, life expectancy and so on).